{"id":1120,"date":"2024-01-16T09:19:02","date_gmt":"2024-01-16T08:19:02","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/pigyki.fr\/?p=1120"},"modified":"2025-05-17T16:28:38","modified_gmt":"2025-05-17T14:28:38","slug":"la-discipline-en-questions","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/pigyki.fr\/index.php\/2024\/01\/16\/la-discipline-en-questions\/","title":{"rendered":"La discipline en questions"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"block-c29ac5d9-6326-4fac-9951-1896942f68bf\">Autorit\u00e9, discipline, ces mots ont-ils leur place dans la p\u00e9dagogie Willems\u00ae ?<br>Si oui, \u00e0 quel niveau ?<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p id=\"block-2f45c806-321d-4d47-8924-c30b250fd914\">La question de la discipline dans les cours d&rsquo;initiation musicale revient fr\u00e9quemment dans les cours de formation. Elle est souvent pos\u00e9e par de jeunes professeurs encore peu exp\u00e9riment\u00e9s, ce qui est bien naturel.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p id=\"block-1d16a089-7458-4c64-b072-cbb9fd594689\">L&rsquo;objet de cet article n&rsquo;est pas de donner des solutions magiques \u00e0 des difficult\u00e9s aussi vari\u00e9es que les situations et les personnes concern\u00e9es.<br>L&rsquo;id\u00e9e est plut\u00f4t de solliciter nos lecteurs pour partager des r\u00e9flexions et des exp\u00e9riences, et ainsi leur dire qu&rsquo;ils ne sont pas seuls \u00e0 y \u00eatre (ou avoir \u00e9t\u00e9) confront\u00e9s.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p id=\"block-8c985e19-f7f6-4d63-9e56-332643c28e57\">Pour avoir travaill\u00e9 dans des \u00e9coles maternelles et \u00e9l\u00e9mentaires, j&rsquo;ai pu constater que des enfants pouvaient changer compl\u00e8tement de comportement d&rsquo;une ann\u00e9e sur l&rsquo;autre, quand le ma\u00eetre ou la ma\u00eetresse changeait. L&rsquo;attitude du professeur semble bien \u00eatre en cause.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p id=\"block-af79032f-27a8-4954-9d50-90676347d79b\">Nous voyons quelquefois des professeurs compl\u00e8tement d\u00e9bord\u00e9s par leurs \u00e9l\u00e8ves, m\u00eame en petits effectifs et \u00e0 un tr\u00e8s jeune \u00e2ge. D&rsquo;autres fois, on a l&rsquo;impression qu&rsquo;il se d\u00e9gage du professeur une sorte \u00ab\u00a0d&rsquo;autorit\u00e9 naturelle\u00a0\u00bb.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p id=\"block-bb4af1dd-7c20-4fe3-98e5-f0ccc8632b83\">Pour ouvrir le d\u00e9bat, je propose quelques pistes&#8230;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"block-1808416a-1159-44bb-9888-0c3a9b9c1c99\">Observer<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p id=\"block-bee94dac-2f23-460d-b868-b05cef294877\">Les jeunes professeurs connaissent souvent mieux la musique que la psychologie de l&rsquo;enfant.<br>Il arrive qu&rsquo;ils soient tellement d\u00e9sireux de partager leur amour de la musique, qu&rsquo;ils en oublient les \u00e9tapes n\u00e9cessaires \u00e0 l&rsquo;enfant pour y adh\u00e9rer au m\u00eame niveau.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p id=\"block-976fb3e7-364c-4ed9-be0c-e90164aabcb6\">La premi\u00e8re \u00e9tape est donc l&rsquo;observation fine de l&rsquo;enfant, et de l&rsquo;enfant dans le groupe.<br>Cela permet de sentir quels sont ses besoins du moment, quelquefois tr\u00e8s \u00e9loign\u00e9s de l&rsquo;activit\u00e9 en cours, et donc d&rsquo;\u00e9valuer de quelle fa\u00e7on il convient au mieux d&rsquo;y r\u00e9pondre.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p id=\"block-3fa3ec4a-e449-40ff-874f-d8c5fc519fb2\">Mais pendant que le professeur \u00ab\u00a0observe\u00a0\u00bb, qui conduit la le\u00e7on ?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p id=\"block-94e0ce52-d41e-4502-b70e-f71e8a71dd6c\">Naturellement, cette observation se d\u00e9veloppe avec le temps&#8230;<br>L&rsquo;outil id\u00e9al pour progresser est la vid\u00e9o : filmer ses cours, puis prendre le temps de les visionner, seul ou avec quelqu&rsquo;un de plus exp\u00e9riment\u00e9.<br>Mais \u00e7a ne suffit pas \u00e0 r\u00e9gler tous les probl\u00e8mes.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"block-cbae1cb5-12b2-4237-9529-f0c436ce981d\">Silence ! &#8230; ?!<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p id=\"block-2947f6d4-c8ac-4837-8a7e-847bb3704fd0\">Les apprentissages n\u00e9cessitent du calme, pour favoriser la concentration, et pour la musique, beaucoup de silence, pour valoriser l&rsquo;\u00e9coute du son !<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p id=\"block-0ca3497b-f01f-4680-8d5c-d1208a63fdfb\">On peut donc \u00eatre tent\u00e9 d&rsquo;imposer le silence, comme pr\u00e9alable \u00e0 l&rsquo;activit\u00e9.<br>Mais cela ne garantit pas la qualit\u00e9 de l&rsquo;\u00e9coute que nous appelons de nos v\u0153ux.<br>Ni la participation active, inventive et joyeuse que nous esp\u00e9rons !<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p id=\"block-f175d38e-6ae6-4739-bd1a-92b06e0d2db0\">On peut alors \u00eatre tent\u00e9 de miser sur l&rsquo;attrait de la musique pour susciter l&rsquo;adh\u00e9sion et la participation active et constructive des \u00e9l\u00e8ves.<br>Mais chacun r\u00e9agissant diff\u00e9remment il n&rsquo;est pas s\u00fbr qu&rsquo;on entende la musique ou que les plus timides y trouvent leur compte&#8230;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"block-cad82beb-7147-43ad-92b7-7e28b3f941ea\">Et Willems dans tout \u00e7a ?<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p id=\"block-37f6bdc1-547d-4f9f-87dd-b5fff9e868c2\">Jacques Chapuis, Pr\u00e9sident-Fondateur de l&rsquo;AIEM-Willems, racontait que la chanson \u00ab\u00a0Le g\u00e9ant\u00a0\u00bb \u00e9tait n\u00e9e d&rsquo;une situation inattendue \u00e0 laquelle Edgar Willems a r\u00e9pondu \u00e0 sa mani\u00e8re :<br>Un jour qu&rsquo;il entrait dans la salle de classe, il trouva ses \u00e9l\u00e8ves debout sur la table (c&rsquo;\u00e9tait un petit groupe). Au lieu de les gronder, il s&rsquo;est exclam\u00e9 \u00ab\u00a0Oh ! Des g\u00e9ants !\u00a0\u00bb, et il a commenc\u00e9 \u00e0 chanter en improvisant la chanson &#8230; qui nous sert encore aujourd&rsquo;hui de r\u00e9f\u00e9rence pour la Tierce mineure !!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"block-650f7170-5e12-4648-ab40-2a0e27cbd3f1\">Questions<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p id=\"block-8d45c7f6-047f-4b5e-bbb8-f948a3368e10\">Alors, peut-on, doit-on toujours tenter de \u00ab\u00a0musicaliser\u00a0\u00bb toutes les situations ?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p id=\"block-53ac01b0-4cbe-41ae-8dcb-ece519c703f9\">L&rsquo;observation des besoins de l&rsquo;enfant conduit-elle \u00e0 satisfaire tous ses d\u00e9sirs ?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p id=\"block-17d9e577-7919-4ecd-89da-1c20d07ef0ad\">Jacques Chapuis disait souvent \u00ab\u00a0L&rsquo;enfant est sup\u00e9rieur \u00e0 l&rsquo;adulte au plan de ses potentialit\u00e9s\u00a0\u00bb.<br>Est-ce dire que l&rsquo;enfant a toujours raison ?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p id=\"block-bad10630-93a4-48a0-a922-9304af107d0a\">Et en quoi consiste cette \u00ab\u00a0autorit\u00e9 naturelle\u00a0\u00bb \u00e9voqu\u00e9e plus haut ? Peut-on l&rsquo;acqu\u00e9rir ?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"block-bd53097d-0b9a-42d1-b990-752b4fd4e14c\">Le d\u00e9bat est ouvert<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p id=\"block-90db3443-a889-45aa-9fdd-84321db9b8f7\">Le d\u00e9bat est ouvert, non pour ouvrir une pol\u00e9mique, mais pour aider nos jeunes professeurs \u00e0 \u00eatre plus heureux dans leur travail au service des enfants et de la musique.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p id=\"block-65c4a592-34b5-4efd-a065-6f63cba3022f\">Merci de commenter cet article ci-dessous.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Autorit\u00e9, discipline, ces mots ont-ils leur place dans la p\u00e9dagogie Willems\u00ae ?<br \/>\nSi oui, \u00e0 quel niveau ?<br \/>\nArticle \u00e0 commenter&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":1126,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"rop_custom_images_group":[],"rop_custom_messages_group":[],"rop_publish_now":"initial","rop_publish_now_accounts":[],"rop_publish_now_history":[],"rop_publish_now_status":"pending","footnotes":""},"categories":[103,46],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1120","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-pedagogie-2","category-pedagogie"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.4 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>La discipline en questions - Pigyki<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/pigyki.fr\/index.php\/2024\/01\/16\/la-discipline-en-questions\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"fr_FR\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"La discipline en questions - Pigyki\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Autorit\u00e9, discipline, ces mots ont-ils leur place dans la p\u00e9dagogie Willems\u00ae ? 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